TrueWow Raid Progress

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Re: TrueWow Raid Progress

#556 » Post by belendor » 24 Apr 2014 00:23

aceman611 wrote:I mentioned this in my post regarding Harvest Soul, but didn't want to specify yet ;-)

But yeah, since you brought it up Belendor, that spirit shriek during HS makes it a near wipe unless you can kill it before transition (tough to do), hence all the lame tactics we've both resorted to. Another bugged scenario was when he cast HS and Vile Spirits exploded on us when we were all pulled together and stunned.

If that gets fixed, and the Val'kyr teleportation gets fixed, this fight will be a cakewalk. That being said, if the Val'kyr work as intended on retail it will be more challenging, so all in all, I welcome any fixes :-)
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Re: TrueWow Raid Progress

#557 » Post by Relina » 24 Apr 2014 03:38

Btw does anyone on either faction have SS of the group that got 1st kill for their faction ?
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Re: TrueWow Raid Progress

#558 » Post by bigballs » 24 Apr 2014 03:48

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Re: TrueWow Raid Progress

#559 » Post by Blacklustersoldier » 24 Apr 2014 04:46

we got 2 or 3 screenshots, it took more to organize group for photo session than to kill lk25hc...
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Re: TrueWow Raid Progress

#560 » Post by testeromir » 01 May 2014 11:20

I had green debuff and was targeted by orange. Luckily we didnt wipe. Check my screenshot.
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Re: TrueWow Raid Progress

#561 » Post by Teraan » 01 May 2014 13:37

testeromir wrote:I had green debuff and was targeted by orange. Luckily we didnt wipe. Check my screenshot.
http://postimg.org/image/t3mh85r4v/
Why would that wipe you? It just doesn't allow you to attack the Orange Ooze..
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Re: TrueWow Raid Progress

#562 » Post by Nyaneve » 01 May 2014 13:52

Teraan wrote:
testeromir wrote:I had green debuff and was targeted by orange. Luckily we didnt wipe. Check my screenshot.
http://postimg.org/image/t3mh85r4v/
Why would that wipe you? It just doesn't allow you to attack the Orange Ooze..
He would be trying to avoid getting hit by the orange ooze when he is supposed to be attacking the green ooze. Sure, it wouldn't cause a wipe but it is a problem and interfering with the basic mechanic of the fight.

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Re: TrueWow Raid Progress

#563 » Post by Eisen » 02 May 2014 14:23

Nyaneve wrote:
Teraan wrote:
testeromir wrote:I had green debuff and was targeted by orange. Luckily we didnt wipe. Check my screenshot.
http://postimg.org/image/t3mh85r4v/
Why would that wipe you? It just doesn't allow you to attack the Orange Ooze..
He would be trying to avoid getting hit by the orange ooze when he is supposed to be attacking the green ooze. Sure, it wouldn't cause a wipe but it is a problem and interfering with the basic mechanic of the fight.
Actually this is way better for the mechanic of the fight than if he had gotten the orange debuff, because guess what, You're not supposed to be attacking the orange ooze if it's targeted you, you should run!
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Re: TrueWow Raid Progress

#564 » Post by Nyaneve » 02 May 2014 18:25

Eisen wrote: Actually this is way better for the mechanic of the fight than if he had gotten the orange debuff, because guess what, You're not supposed to be attacking the orange ooze if it's targeted you, you should run!
I disagree with you here.
1) [Ooze Variable]/[Gaseous Bloat]: In this case, he is being targetted by the orange gas while he is supposed to be attacking the green ooze. He runs away as he is supposed to, but his damage is missing from the green ooze until those with gas variable kill the orange gas. Thus, the ooze variable "team" has 1 damage dealer less than they are supposed to (i.e., the target of the orange gas).
2) [Gas Variable]/[Volatile Ooze Adhesive]: Here we're assuming the opposite scenario. His DPS may not be missing from the orange gas, but that is assuming the raid keeps the gas and ooze close together (which is unlikely). So the most likely scenario sees the gas variable "team" having 1 damage dealer less than they are supposed to (i.e., the target of the green ooze).

TL;DR: This bug potentially imbalances the ratio of people attacking the ooze and gas.

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Re: TrueWow Raid Progress

#565 » Post by innocentguy » 03 May 2014 10:30

imo one main problem with this bug with the variable debuffs is that it gets so much harder to share the green ooze's damage.

I think that, ideally, everyone with the green variable debuff should be soaking up the damage, getting knocked back together, while those with the orange debuff are free to attack the gas cloud. This isn't possible when the green ooze is able to target someone with the orange debuff, or vice versa.
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#566 » Post by marko1984 » 09 May 2014 23:50

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Re: TrueWow Raid Progress

#567 » Post by Uwel » 10 May 2014 08:29

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Re: TrueWow Raid Progress

#568 » Post by innocentguy » 12 May 2014 08:17

There are a few things... Not going to open a bug report on the tracker since I can't reproduce these and I can't think of a reason for them...

1. Shadow Prison (Blood Prince Council heroic)

This debuff at BPC heroic seems to be almost completely bugged these days. We simply don't see it anymore.

2. Necrotic Plague (Lich King)

This plague.... It's hard to explain. It seems like the timers for when it is applied are off. Application of the plague used to start just after LK summons the first Shambling Horror. Now, we sometimes have to wait until 3 horrors have been summoned before we even see the plague. The weird timers come and go though, so with a bit of wiping we can still do it but really...
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Re: TrueWow Raid Progress

#569 » Post by Nyeriah » 12 May 2014 09:02

Pulling Keleseth with a taunt seems to be what bugs BPC (at least as discussed at TC).

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Re: TrueWow Raid Progress

#570 » Post by Reaper4vp » 12 May 2014 17:35

Nyeriah wrote:Pulling Keleseth with a taunt seems to be what bugs BPC (at least as discussed at TC).
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