Lag problems...

[Myaoming]

Hi there
im having some serious lag issues when playing...
when im questing its 600 ms+
when im dueling in the sewers its 1k+
in my last rhc it was 2k+
in bg i have random lag spikes...
i get a huuuuge lag spike when they start attacking a boss in ICC 10/25 (25 more often) and the lag spike ends when the boss dies... its totally unplayable
my net is working great outside wow
my latency used to be 400-500 ms everywhere wich is playable
i did a tracert to login.truewow.org and i got this :

Tracing route to login.truewow.org [184.154.79.250]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 5 ms 8 ms 12 ms 105.105.105.104
2 23 ms 8 ms 9 ms 105.105.105.104
3 7 ms 6 ms 5 ms 105.105.105.1
4 20 ms 7 ms 9 ms 46.18.156.66
5 9 ms 16 ms 12 ms 10.66.66.1
6 * * * Request timed out.
7 * * * Request timed out.
8 174 ms 179 ms 170 ms 12.118.94.97
9 179 ms 173 ms 174 ms cr1.n54ny.ip.att.net [12.122.131.166]
10 173 ms 172 ms 179 ms cr1.n54ny.ip.att.net [12.122.105.49]
11 189 ms 165 ms 172 ms n54ny03jt.ip.att.net [12.122.86.5]
12 * 186 ms 182 ms 192.205.36.106
13 181 ms 192 ms 173 ms xe-0-1-0.cr2.lga5.us.above.net [64.125.27.66]
14 191 ms 188 ms 186 ms xe-2-3-0.cr2.ord2.us.above.net [64.125.24.30]
15 193 ms 189 ms 192 ms xe-0-0-0.cr1.ord2.us.above.net [64.125.28.233]
16 195 ms 197 ms 191 ms xe-0-1-0.mpr1.ord6.us.above.net [64.125.31.197]
17 206 ms 191 ms 182 ms 64.124.146.114.allocated.above.net [64.124.146.114]
18 194 ms 196 ms 201 ms asw-ed109.ord03.singlehop.net [173.236.1.46]
19 228 ms 202 ms 195 ms login.truewow.org [184.154.79.250]

i never saw those asterix in hops 6 and 7 before.. they just appeared this week and i have no idea what caused it
both windows and router's firewalls are disabled.
im playing on wifi not ethernet
i hope some one can help me fix this problem cz i already asked some ppl ingame and no one had answers.

[Tia]

Hello Slardar,

6 * * * Request timed out.
7 * * * Request timed out.

from the trace it appears that the lag is caused by the timeouts in hop 6 and 7, which means that there is a problem somewhere on the route between your PC and the TrueWoW server. There is nothing wrong with your connection, just the servers that redirect the packets do not respond, the packets get lost and you experience lag. The company providing these servers probably have some issues atm, that is why the problems with lag appeared only recently, and there is high probability that they will be solved soon and your lag should not be present anymore. Playing on wifi may also cause some problems, it is advisable to connect via ethernet cable when playing MMO games if possible, since the amount of packets sent/received is rather big. Hope that answers your questions

[Myaoming]

mmm i see.... so Patience will solve the problem
ty Tia

[Dr. Who]

i finaly found out why i had some many lag some days and others dont.
My net operator just cut my net speed some times because i use it a lot.
well... when i'm not playing wow i'm downloading. =P
and the worst think is that the operator allwais cut the speed when i'm doing icc25 like yesterday.
/cry
i ended my contract with this net last moth. i'm thinking in change operator now and hope i will finaly do icc with no lag. =)

[Mithrandir]

And I hope to see that too, Beasty!

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I have lag for a week already. The net is perfect outside WoW and used to be great while in-game, even. But, now, while I duel, go dungeons, or go RGBs, I get short random lag spikes. Everything is moving dynamically and even the damage people inflict on me is registered and I see it, but my own actions are lag-like. I hit different keys for spells and get up to five highlighted at some times. I die before I get to heal myself and survive at least a little longer (I failed at an arena match because of this), or even finish off someone before he does the same (same thing happened at the arenas >_>). This really ruins my timing and performance. :S

[Tia]

Try running a traceroute while you experience the lag, there are guides in the most recent topics here...

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Tracing route to login.truewow.org [184.154.79.250]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 9 ms 15 ms 15 ms ras2.vidaoptics.com [89.106.106.5]
2 15 ms 15 ms 15 ms gw1.vidaoptics.com [89.106.106.1]
3 15 ms 15 ms 15 ms vidin-106-17.vidaoptics.com [89.106.106.17]
4 15 ms 15 ms 15 ms 91.217.215.249
5 15 ms 15 ms 15 ms xe-5-1-0-215.sof-003-score-1-re0.interoute.net [
195.81.49.145]
6 46 ms 62 ms 46 ms ae2-0.bud-001-score-1-re0.interoute.net [84.233.
193.198]
7 46 ms 46 ms 109 ms ae2-0.prg-001-score-2-re0.interoute.net [84.233.
138.213]
8 46 ms 62 ms 46 ms ae0-0.prg-001-score-1-re0.interoute.net [84.233.
138.205]
9 93 ms 46 ms 78 ms ae2-0.fra-006-score-2-re0.interoute.net [84.233.
138.210]
10 46 ms 46 ms 46 ms ae1-0.fra-006-score-3-re1.interoute.net [212.23.
42.174]
11 46 ms 46 ms 46 ms ae1-0.ams-koo-score-2-re0.interoute.net [84.233.
190.49]
12 46 ms 46 ms 46 ms ams-ix.ae1.cr1.ams2.nl.nlayer.net [195.69.145.21
9]
13 46 ms 46 ms 46 ms ae3-60g.cr1.ams2.nl.nlayer.net [69.22.139.238]
14 62 ms 62 ms 62 ms xe-5-3-0.cr1.lhr1.uk.nlayer.net [69.22.142.94]
15 124 ms 124 ms 124 ms xe-8-2-0.cr1.nyc3.us.nlayer.net [69.22.142.132]

16 124 ms 140 ms 124 ms ae2-70g.cr1.ewr1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.95.145]
17 156 ms 156 ms 155 ms xe-5-0-0.cr1.ord1.us.nlayer.net [69.22.142.74]
18 156 ms 140 ms 140 ms ae0-40g.cr2.ord1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.111.154]
19 156 ms 156 ms 156 ms ae2-20g.ar1.ord6.us.nlayer.net [69.31.110.254]
20 155 ms 156 ms 156 ms as32475.xe-2-0-4.ar1.ord6.us.nlayer.net [69.31.1
10.202]
21 452 ms 156 ms 156 ms asw-ed109.ord03.singlehop.net [173.236.1.42]
22 156 ms 156 ms 155 ms login.truewow.org [184.154.79.250]

I made it just right about now, without going in WoW and wait for a random lag spike at a random time. I'll do another one when that happens. I just made it so you can see. I don't understand much about cmd, so, some explanation on things could help me in the future.

Okay, I'm back. I tried doing a check right when I got lag. This is what I get.

Tracing route to login.truewow.org [184.154.79.250]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 11 ms 13 ms 13 ms ras2.vidaoptics.com [89.106.106.5]
2 14 ms 13 ms 13 ms gw1.vidaoptics.com [89.106.106.1]
3 15 ms 14 ms 14 ms vidin-106-17.vidaoptics.com [89.106.106.17]
4 14 ms 14 ms 14 ms 91.217.215.249
5 15 ms 46 ms 14 ms xe-5-1-0-215.sof-003-score-1-re0.interoute.net [
195.81.49.145]
6 45 ms 46 ms 46 ms ae2-0.bud-001-score-1-re0.interoute.net [84.233.
193.198]
7 46 ms 46 ms 46 ms ae2-0.prg-001-score-2-re0.interoute.net [84.233.
138.213]
8 46 ms 45 ms 45 ms ae0-0.prg-001-score-1-re0.interoute.net [84.233.
138.205]
9 77 ms 45 ms 43 ms ae2-0.fra-006-score-2-re0.interoute.net [84.233.
138.210]
10 43 ms 45 ms 44 ms ae1-0.fra-006-score-3-re1.interoute.net [212.23.
42.174]
11 106 ms 45 ms 46 ms ae1-0.ams-koo-score-2-re0.interoute.net [84.233.
190.49]
12 61 ms 46 ms 46 ms ams-ix.ae1.cr1.ams2.nl.nlayer.net [195.69.145.21
9]
13 46 ms 45 ms 45 ms ae3-60g.cr1.ams2.nl.nlayer.net [69.22.139.238]
14 * 61 ms 61 ms xe-5-3-0.cr1.lhr1.uk.nlayer.net [69.22.142.94]
15 124 ms 124 ms 123 ms xe-8-2-0.cr1.nyc3.us.nlayer.net [69.22.142.132]

16 124 ms 124 ms 140 ms ae2-70g.cr1.ewr1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.95.145]
17 155 ms 155 ms 155 ms xe-5-0-0.cr1.ord1.us.nlayer.net [69.22.142.74]
18 155 ms 154 ms 151 ms ae0-40g.cr2.ord1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.111.154]
19 155 ms 154 ms 155 ms ae2-20g.ar1.ord6.us.nlayer.net [69.31.110.254]
20 139 ms 139 ms 140 ms as32475.xe-2-0-4.ar1.ord6.us.nlayer.net [69.31.1
10.202]
21 155 ms 155 ms 155 ms asw-ed109.ord03.singlehop.net [173.236.1.42]
22 171 ms 155 ms 155 ms login.truewow.org [184.154.79.250]

Look at number 14.

[OkweL]

Just like usually, connection between Europe and US, Asia and US, Australia and US. There are starting problems.

Either move to USA or just deal with that.

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Okay.
/takes a plane to USA

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Sorry for double-posting, but I made another one today just in a BG (I'm in there atm >_>). I have lag-spikes constantly for two days now. 2k-6k ms. This is what I got.

1 11 ms 13 ms 9 ms ftp1.vidaoptics.com [89.106.106.4]
2 14 ms 14 ms 13 ms gw1.vidaoptics.com [89.106.106.1]
3 15 ms 15 ms 13 ms vidin-106-17.vidaoptics.com [89.106.106.17]
4 14 ms 13 ms 15 ms 91.217.215.249
5 14 ms 14 ms 15 ms xe-5-1-0-215.sof-003-score-1-re0.interoute.net [
195.81.49.145]
6 77 ms 61 ms 61 ms ae0-0.sof-003-score-2-re0.interoute.net [84.233.
193.234]
7 61 ms 77 ms 60 ms ae3-0.mil-cal-score-2-re0.interoute.net [84.233.
193.210]
8 62 ms 93 ms 61 ms ae0-0.mil-cal-score-1-re0.interoute.net [89.202.
146.85]
9 77 ms 77 ms 60 ms ae2-0.fra-006-score-1-re0.interoute.net [89.202.
146.90]
10 62 ms 61 ms 61 ms ae0-0.fra-006-score-3-re1.interoute.net [212.23.
42.166]
11 77 ms 62 ms 61 ms ae1-0.ams-koo-score-2-re0.interoute.net [84.233.
190.49]
12 77 ms 77 ms 77 ms ams-ix.ae1.cr1.ams2.nl.nlayer.net [195.69.145.21
9]
13 77 ms 61 ms 60 ms ae3-60g.cr1.ams2.nl.nlayer.net [69.22.139.238]
14 77 ms 77 ms 77 ms xe-5-3-0.cr1.lhr1.uk.nlayer.net [69.22.142.94]
15 140 ms 139 ms 155 ms xe-8-2-0.cr1.nyc3.us.nlayer.net [69.22.142.132]

16 140 ms 138 ms 139 ms ae2-70g.cr1.ewr1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.95.145]
17 171 ms 171 ms 170 ms xe-5-0-0.cr1.ord1.us.nlayer.net [69.22.142.74]
18 170 ms 171 ms 186 ms ae0-40g.cr2.ord1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.111.154]
19 171 ms 171 ms 171 ms ae2-20g.ar1.ord6.us.nlayer.net [69.31.110.254]
20 * 155 ms 154 ms as32475.xe-2-0-4.ar1.ord6.us.nlayer.net [69.31.1
10.202]
21 * 171 ms 171 ms asw-ed109.ord03.singlehop.net [173.236.1.42]
22 171 ms 169 ms 155 ms login.truewow.org [184.154.79.250]

Does deleting Cache/WTF/Interface folders help? What else can I do? >_>

[Tia]

Deleting cache/interface/wtf folders resets the client to default settings and might remove some problems if they were caused by corrupted cache data or addons. The * in the traceroute means the request to contact a hop timed out, therefore it is probable packets get lost on their way to the server and this causes lag and/or disconnections. That's a provider issue and there is nothing you can do about that personally, apart from contacting your ISP and telling them there are connection issues. Though I would wait a couple of days to see if the issue does not get fixed by itself

[OkweL]

@Tehowner, your connection is fine. Problem lies somewhere else. I know that I have crapy pc after I had to remove 1 ram piece but I had always problems with stability and performance in every single raid 20+, espacially both Ahn'Qiraj, TBC raids that I tryied, BWL (sometimes), Icecrown (always at bosses before). Fortunately MC and ZG were working always fine. And I found source of my problems - addons. Those that are reading from cached data. I did yesterday both raids in Silitius with ALL addons disabled and didn't had any single lag spike or connection problem. Before with all addons that I use I had like 1-3 fps in AQ20/40, with disabled I had already 30+, while latency was and is always the same (around 120ms).

Delete cache (wtf keeps your and your addons settings), then after logging into your account disable all addons, then go and play a bit. There is nothing else you can do.

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That's just it, I don't have any addons. And it's been already two weeks since the first lag spike. Now it's even worse. Every day since the last one, I receive lag spikes more and more often, and when I press a directional button or anything else, my character moves after two seconds, but for double the amount of time I kept my finger on that directional key. I once fell off a cliff and managed to use Hand of Protection before I could die from the fall. Today, in a duel, I had perfect timing for my spells. So perfect that I had five highlighted at once and only the first one I pushed cast, the rest didn't. My lag spikes normally last five seconds or more, which is more than 5k ms if I remember right, but the computer icon displays around 200-500 only. When I type, I type faster than the chat can display the letters. It's so slow that once two whole words were missing from what I wrote at the very beginning of that sentence. My FPS rate is 30-70 now, since my video card problems are over now. I've also tried using Reduce Input Lag as an option, but it still persist the way it is. It's just lowering my fps rate greatly. I don't know what I could do either. I'll try deleting all three folders and doing some scans or something else to see what the problem could be.

[OkweL]

Do disk defragmentatio, if you don't use any addons, and even on low settings you have problems maybe it's because of times, that client needs to load files. Your connection is looks fine, espacially if everywhere else is ok.